Question on Thunder

• Yogurticecream wrote on 2010-04-14 23:23
  What rank of Thunder will it start to be decent for rafting use?
  
  (I'm still worried about the CP gains)
  
  Considering on rafting with 3-4 people for items like common leather and iron ingots.
• fathippo wrote on 2010-04-14 23:26
  I think its good at rank F o.o, I used to raft a bunch with rank F thunder and it wasnt that bad, its just that you have to charge more to kill less. Yes, thunder is extremely good for rafting just like the other advanced magics, the CP is'nt that bad untill you rank it pretty high, and it depends on your current CP, if its really high and you still need to rank things like taming or WM then it wont make it any easier.
  
  I think this will help, if you havent seen it already: http://wiki.mabinogiworld.com/index.php?title=Thunder
• Majikaru wrote on 2010-04-14 23:27
  I personally wouldn't use it until it's at least rank 5.
• Bankai231 wrote on 2010-04-14 23:57

  Quote from Majikaru;3108:

  I personally wouldn't use it until it's at least rank 5.

  
  Well you cant to rank 5 without using it :P
  But seriously thunder is a really nice skill for rafting. It hits a lot of targets at once. I would think about ranking it up but if only for rafting rank it to a lower rank for less cp.
• Trigger wrote on 2010-04-15 00:47
  Rank 1 is obviously best for rafting. If you're going solo, accept no substitute.
  
  If you're rafting with a party, don't even bother using Thunder; use Ice Spear instead. You'll have party members there to steer the raft closer to the riverbanks to let you kill off entire mobs with a single shot. If you'd really rather use Thunder, Rank B gives 2 hits on the first charge, and Rank 6 gives 3. More is obviously better; it's up to you how high you want to take Thunder if you're worried about CP gains.
• EndlessDreams wrote on 2010-04-15 01:36
  If you go in a party, just make sure the other people can kill stuff quickly. You can just pretend to shoot arrows or something. That way, you save AP/have lower CP while still get materials. Of course, pay them mana pots or something.
• adc7516 wrote on 2010-04-15 14:05
  I can handle rafting alone with r6 thunder, and get about 10-13 big stars by the time I get to cor. The training there is pretty good because you can attack all those hobgoblins at once. Though, r1 is recommended because you can hit 5 hobgoblins with one charge, so its more efficient, not to mention it does way more damage at r1...
  
  Thunder burns mana like crazy because the first charge is 40 mana, so you should probably use trans for extra mp. It also makes your cp crazy high. While learning thunder, my cp went up about 300, and by r1, the total cp gain would be around 500. But cp really isn't a problem unless you are wm training or animal taming, right?
  :XD:
• Fumy wrote on 2010-04-15 14:14

  Quote from adc7516;3974:

  I can handle rafting alone with r6 thunder, and get about 10-13 big stars by the time I get to cor.....
  :XD:

  
  
  I easily get a lot more than that with just spaming Magnum... Not worth the MP pots if that's all you can do with r6 thunder :S
• Yogurticecream wrote on 2010-04-15 15:05
  So it's thunder or magnum, which are skills I'm really hesitating to learn...
  
  I guess I'll give up until much later. (Who knows really if I'll still be playing often then.)
• Fumy wrote on 2010-04-15 15:10
  I think Thunder is actually better when you rank it. But well I can kill more with 1 Mag than ppl with 1 fully charged Thunder cuz of splash dmg... I hit hard enough to 1 hit kill with splash dmg so I can get 15-20 kills with 1 shot
• Yogurticecream wrote on 2010-04-15 15:13

  Quote from Fumy;4019:

  I think Thunder is actually better when you rank it. But well I can kill more with 1 Mag than ppl with 1 fully charged Thunder cuz of splash dmg... I hit hard enough to 1 hit kill with splash dmg so I can get 15-20 kills with 1 shot

  
  How much dex do you have, what rank is your magnum, and what equipments are you using?
  
  I'll very much prefer to use range over magic if it means that I will never need to touch a supply of blue pots. There's also this issue on mana consumption and lag over here.
• Fumy wrote on 2010-04-15 15:15
  320+ Dex can't tell you the actual number cuz I'm ranking life skills like mad and it increases everyday, r1 Magnum, Max dmg equip cuz I already have 85% crit with just my bow.
• rinaek wrote on 2010-04-15 15:27
  For rafting, thunder does a pretty nice job at rank 9. At that point, it can one-shot hobgoblin bowmen and exorcists most of the time. Of course, ranking it up to 6 will make rafting easier and more mana efficient, but that's not necessary.
• Yogurticecream wrote on 2010-04-15 15:36

  Quote from Fumy;4026:

  320+ Dex can't tell you the actual number cuz I'm ranking life skills like mad and it increases everyday, r1 Magnum, Max dmg equip cuz I already have 85% crit with just my bow.

  
  I have a couple of dex skills and my dex is only 267 x.x What sort of life skills are you focusing on?
  If I do complete the range combat it'll only go to 298 at most.
• Fumy wrote on 2010-04-15 15:40
  Doing Weaving right now (almost r4) once I reach r1 I'll have 333 dex. After that I'm gonna get Metallurgy from r8 to r6 and I'll have 335 dex than I'll be finishing Mirage Missile, Counter Attack, Playing Instrument, Tailoring and Handicraft. I should have 370+ dex. Once FS gets uncapped I should have 400+ dex.
  It's more time consuming than AP consuming... I'll have enough AP for all these skills in maybe 3-4 weeks.